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		<title>Comment on The Human Continuum-The Brilliance of Being Human by otryba</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2009/09/13/the-human-continuum-the-brilliance-of-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>otryba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, we are deluded to the obvious, Experiential, fact of reality for the simple reason that peoples who have undergone conquest become first of all subjected to all kinds of violence, humiliation, subjugation and self-alienation.  To the degree that they FEEL that, they might actually rebel, retaliate against their oppressors, etc.  In Western history every rebellion has been coopted into just a further entrenchment into a deeper form of domination.  

In the West we also, and hand-in-hand with domination, develop a "spiritual" hypnosis which uses refrains of "light, all love, etc.," anything but the actual, felt texture of life on Earth. 

My experience of awakening certainly had NONE of the romantic hallmarks sold by many so-called "spiritual" scoundrels.  As a matter of fact, I awoke first of all to how much pain I had suppressed and how my "spirituality" had actually served as an anesthetic, as a way of suppressing, repressing and expressing pain, but always as if there was a separation between me and then "this experience of pain."  When that wall came crashing in, my primary experience was of profound discomfort, not only personal discomfort but also how that discomfort AND the acculturation to NOT feeling it has been passed on by both sides of my family.  I also became profoundly aware of the shame that I felt at even feeling discomfort, as if I was betraying precious family secrets (and I was and refuse to be beholden to them), not only of my own family, but of Western culture at large.  

So, no, "informing" people by giving people more information is NOT enough.  How I work with people is taking them into-the-form of how they are holding and replicating culture in the very shape they hold, and one which is largely immune to their "spiritual" cosmetology of replacing their dysfunctional judeo-christianity with "shamanism" or "tantra" or whatever fashionable anesthetic looms large on their mediated consciousness.

Consider for a moment that in cultures that are post-conquest and have ADAPTED to and NORMALIZED the post-traumatic state, the greatest taboo is to actually access your FELT experience without rushing to remedy any and every sensation that falls outside of the culturally-sanctioned range of "comfortable." To open to one's ACTUAL experience without rushing to make it cultural acceptable, i.e. to "FIX" it, i.e to make it possible for the people around you to NOT feel THEIR own discomfort.  

To see how this works, just go to your local playground  and watch how parents continually censor and try to amend their children's emotions, because so many of their child's emotions, expressions and behavior are uncomfortable FOR THE PARENTS.  It's truly fascinating.  To even question this in Western culture is considered generally nuts.  What made me begin to call it in question was spending extended periods of time with people who do NOT relate to children, and thus to themselves and each other, in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, we are deluded to the obvious, Experiential, fact of reality for the simple reason that peoples who have undergone conquest become first of all subjected to all kinds of violence, humiliation, subjugation and self-alienation.  To the degree that they FEEL that, they might actually rebel, retaliate against their oppressors, etc.  In Western history every rebellion has been coopted into just a further entrenchment into a deeper form of domination.  </p>
<p>In the West we also, and hand-in-hand with domination, develop a &#8220;spiritual&#8221; hypnosis which uses refrains of &#8220;light, all love, etc.,&#8221; anything but the actual, felt texture of life on Earth. </p>
<p>My experience of awakening certainly had NONE of the romantic hallmarks sold by many so-called &#8220;spiritual&#8221; scoundrels.  As a matter of fact, I awoke first of all to how much pain I had suppressed and how my &#8220;spirituality&#8221; had actually served as an anesthetic, as a way of suppressing, repressing and expressing pain, but always as if there was a separation between me and then &#8220;this experience of pain.&#8221;  When that wall came crashing in, my primary experience was of profound discomfort, not only personal discomfort but also how that discomfort AND the acculturation to NOT feeling it has been passed on by both sides of my family.  I also became profoundly aware of the shame that I felt at even feeling discomfort, as if I was betraying precious family secrets (and I was and refuse to be beholden to them), not only of my own family, but of Western culture at large.  </p>
<p>So, no, &#8220;informing&#8221; people by giving people more information is NOT enough.  How I work with people is taking them into-the-form of how they are holding and replicating culture in the very shape they hold, and one which is largely immune to their &#8220;spiritual&#8221; cosmetology of replacing their dysfunctional judeo-christianity with &#8220;shamanism&#8221; or &#8220;tantra&#8221; or whatever fashionable anesthetic looms large on their mediated consciousness.</p>
<p>Consider for a moment that in cultures that are post-conquest and have ADAPTED to and NORMALIZED the post-traumatic state, the greatest taboo is to actually access your FELT experience without rushing to remedy any and every sensation that falls outside of the culturally-sanctioned range of &#8220;comfortable.&#8221; To open to one&#8217;s ACTUAL experience without rushing to make it cultural acceptable, i.e. to &#8220;FIX&#8221; it, i.e to make it possible for the people around you to NOT feel THEIR own discomfort.  </p>
<p>To see how this works, just go to your local playground  and watch how parents continually censor and try to amend their children&#8217;s emotions, because so many of their child&#8217;s emotions, expressions and behavior are uncomfortable FOR THE PARENTS.  It&#8217;s truly fascinating.  To even question this in Western culture is considered generally nuts.  What made me begin to call it in question was spending extended periods of time with people who do NOT relate to children, and thus to themselves and each other, in this way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom &#038; Our Fundamental Relationship to Life by otryba</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2009/08/26/freedom-is-a-relationship-to-self/comment-page-1/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>otryba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sean,

Thanks for engaging in the dialogue and bringing your richness to the mix.  I love how you speak about a body feeling that is of empty vibrant space.  Yes, our cellular reality is certainly way richer and accessible experientially than the short shrift given to it by the neurolinguistic languaging which we are convinced is our "self." As I explore my EXPERIENCE I begin to see how rich the invitation is within BEING, the verb, AND how truly amputated the Indo-European languages I speak are to even sympathetically reflect the intelligence of the entire reality which surrounds me.  More on that later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sean,</p>
<p>Thanks for engaging in the dialogue and bringing your richness to the mix.  I love how you speak about a body feeling that is of empty vibrant space.  Yes, our cellular reality is certainly way richer and accessible experientially than the short shrift given to it by the neurolinguistic languaging which we are convinced is our &#8220;self.&#8221; As I explore my EXPERIENCE I begin to see how rich the invitation is within BEING, the verb, AND how truly amputated the Indo-European languages I speak are to even sympathetically reflect the intelligence of the entire reality which surrounds me.  More on that later.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Human Continuum-The Brilliance of Being Human by Sean Clarke</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2009/09/13/the-human-continuum-the-brilliance-of-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This rings SO TRUE, it is so deep down in the fabric and into the cells of my being common sense, how do we have 10s of millions of people deluded to such an obvous fact of reality, AND fighting for it, struggling for it, killing themselves for it!?!?

When I started to re-awaken from the great dreaded human comotose a few years back now, such things as you highlight here seemed so increidbly obvious, YET, the mere mention of them was enough to incite incredible reactions, so I just stopped doing it.

I really do not believe informing people is enough, it can help in some cases though I sense we're way past evidence and details now - in my experience - as that can be argued with for all eternity, only the full and true dawning will do it, people actually waking up and seeing/feeling sense, directly, in a way that cannot be argued with.

It seems that only comes ordinarily when people become so incredibly fedup with the state of play that they spark into awakening as there is no other option left.

There has got to be a better way than that, less brutal, right? Or is it simply that this is what it takes to do it, this is in a sense the mirror we need in order to trigger us back into pure reality? Just plain life sense?

It certianly seems to be so...


Peace
Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This rings SO TRUE, it is so deep down in the fabric and into the cells of my being common sense, how do we have 10s of millions of people deluded to such an obvous fact of reality, AND fighting for it, struggling for it, killing themselves for it!?!?</p>
<p>When I started to re-awaken from the great dreaded human comotose a few years back now, such things as you highlight here seemed so increidbly obvious, YET, the mere mention of them was enough to incite incredible reactions, so I just stopped doing it.</p>
<p>I really do not believe informing people is enough, it can help in some cases though I sense we&#8217;re way past evidence and details now - in my experience - as that can be argued with for all eternity, only the full and true dawning will do it, people actually waking up and seeing/feeling sense, directly, in a way that cannot be argued with.</p>
<p>It seems that only comes ordinarily when people become so incredibly fedup with the state of play that they spark into awakening as there is no other option left.</p>
<p>There has got to be a better way than that, less brutal, right? Or is it simply that this is what it takes to do it, this is in a sense the mirror we need in order to trigger us back into pure reality? Just plain life sense?</p>
<p>It certianly seems to be so&#8230;</p>
<p>Peace<br />
Sean</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Emergence of the Manufactured Self by Sean Clarke</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2009/09/19/manufactured-self/comment-page-1/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This for me is a great summary and covers most of the major "hooks or points" of exploration regards our general modern society, and is a helpful "negative/inverse" pointer towards experiencing freedom...

It is a little like rewinding back through the self-made prison and going "ah, I see, that is how it was done, wild!"

My thought all the way through reading his was; if people could take this "rightly", that is, non reactively, and simply listen to the content of it, be stimulated by it however they are, then it and similar "pointers" by other "plain seers" would be the perfect thing to read out on the daily news, say for thirty days, as an experiment, to gently yet clearly strike a chord of awareness, an antidote to blame, self delusion, and the general madness that is generally expressed and used to gain the people’s attention...

Thanks Olivier!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This for me is a great summary and covers most of the major &#8220;hooks or points&#8221; of exploration regards our general modern society, and is a helpful &#8220;negative/inverse&#8221; pointer towards experiencing freedom&#8230;</p>
<p>It is a little like rewinding back through the self-made prison and going &#8220;ah, I see, that is how it was done, wild!&#8221;</p>
<p>My thought all the way through reading his was; if people could take this &#8220;rightly&#8221;, that is, non reactively, and simply listen to the content of it, be stimulated by it however they are, then it and similar &#8220;pointers&#8221; by other &#8220;plain seers&#8221; would be the perfect thing to read out on the daily news, say for thirty days, as an experiment, to gently yet clearly strike a chord of awareness, an antidote to blame, self delusion, and the general madness that is generally expressed and used to gain the people’s attention&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks Olivier!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom &#038; Our Fundamental Relationship to Life by Sean Clarke</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2009/08/26/freedom-is-a-relationship-to-self/comment-page-1/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Olivier!

I notice a gentle field with a bundle of tensions in it which tend to react in various ways, often compulsively, triggering into different potentials depending on what I bring to mind or is perceived through the senses...

"An energetic bundle" I thought for a long time to be myself though later discovered and continue to discover more deeply is nothing more than a collection of points and pressures once set, a bit like an energetic set of clothes...

This energetic set of clothes is usually many layers deep, and it triggers in a multitude of ways as events change, usually drawing attention to a particular layer, or a scattering throughout the layers...

From this is derived a "wardrobe", of thoughts, moods, movements and potentials, which seems to be me changing, moving into a different mood or set of thoughts and ideas...

Very little if any of it is true, yet, in order to function in life I have to be interested in it and play along with it and others in a similar predicament, in various stages of development; from realising this to not realising this at all.

When I identify not with this but use it as a guide/barometer I can somehow verbalise it via insight, energetic impressions flow into words and more tangible expressions.

Sometimes I end up merging more fully with reality itself, and form that I seem to enter a level of flow and insight I cannot fully understand or explain but "ports through" endlessly.

I believe from experience and learning to open and play with this that freedom is in that direction, affinity with pure reality, and bringing it through into physical expression with as little inner resistance, with fewest clothes, layers and "wardrobes" getting in the way of it is the great art.

The closest I have got to this is the body feeling almost not here yet still utterly awake and conscious to physicality, that is, an empty vibrant space where the body usually is with all of its various noise and tensions.

This lasts for different lengths of time, my aim is to have it be much deeper and permanent, as it is one of THE greatest experience's I have yet accessed in waking life, in form.

The way to that seems to be direct confrontation with ultimate truth and staying there, as I find form that all else settles and resolves, and is where the vibrant-spacious-physical reality comes from, is entered, or occurs.

That is about the best description I can give right now of my truest and freest experience, free of what "I am supposed to be experiencing" according to suggestions from people.

I hope it is iuseful or atleast interesting? 

Thanks for reading!


Warm wishes
Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Olivier!</p>
<p>I notice a gentle field with a bundle of tensions in it which tend to react in various ways, often compulsively, triggering into different potentials depending on what I bring to mind or is perceived through the senses&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;An energetic bundle&#8221; I thought for a long time to be myself though later discovered and continue to discover more deeply is nothing more than a collection of points and pressures once set, a bit like an energetic set of clothes&#8230;</p>
<p>This energetic set of clothes is usually many layers deep, and it triggers in a multitude of ways as events change, usually drawing attention to a particular layer, or a scattering throughout the layers&#8230;</p>
<p>From this is derived a &#8220;wardrobe&#8221;, of thoughts, moods, movements and potentials, which seems to be me changing, moving into a different mood or set of thoughts and ideas&#8230;</p>
<p>Very little if any of it is true, yet, in order to function in life I have to be interested in it and play along with it and others in a similar predicament, in various stages of development; from realising this to not realising this at all.</p>
<p>When I identify not with this but use it as a guide/barometer I can somehow verbalise it via insight, energetic impressions flow into words and more tangible expressions.</p>
<p>Sometimes I end up merging more fully with reality itself, and form that I seem to enter a level of flow and insight I cannot fully understand or explain but &#8220;ports through&#8221; endlessly.</p>
<p>I believe from experience and learning to open and play with this that freedom is in that direction, affinity with pure reality, and bringing it through into physical expression with as little inner resistance, with fewest clothes, layers and &#8220;wardrobes&#8221; getting in the way of it is the great art.</p>
<p>The closest I have got to this is the body feeling almost not here yet still utterly awake and conscious to physicality, that is, an empty vibrant space where the body usually is with all of its various noise and tensions.</p>
<p>This lasts for different lengths of time, my aim is to have it be much deeper and permanent, as it is one of THE greatest experience&#8217;s I have yet accessed in waking life, in form.</p>
<p>The way to that seems to be direct confrontation with ultimate truth and staying there, as I find form that all else settles and resolves, and is where the vibrant-spacious-physical reality comes from, is entered, or occurs.</p>
<p>That is about the best description I can give right now of my truest and freest experience, free of what &#8220;I am supposed to be experiencing&#8221; according to suggestions from people.</p>
<p>I hope it is iuseful or atleast interesting? </p>
<p>Thanks for reading!</p>
<p>Warm wishes<br />
Sean</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dr. Shanker on Child &#038; Adult Brain Development by Sean Clarke</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2009/11/19/dr-shanker/comment-page-1/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video, so many insightful moments... 

I love it when the science reflects, speaks back to me what I am understanding intutitively, what is being revealed internally as I am going spontaneously through my own process...

Looking forward to exploring more of thier work and seeing what comes form it, very encouraging indeed - thanks for sharing!

Best Wishes
Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video, so many insightful moments&#8230; </p>
<p>I love it when the science reflects, speaks back to me what I am understanding intutitively, what is being revealed internally as I am going spontaneously through my own process&#8230;</p>
<p>Looking forward to exploring more of thier work and seeing what comes form it, very encouraging indeed - thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>Best Wishes<br />
Sean</p>
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		<title>Comment on ReUniting With Cellular Intelligence Audio by otryba</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2010/05/19/cellularintelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>otryba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Pat!  Thank you for listening to the recording.  I'm glad you enjoyed it.  "Cellular Intelligence" is the intelligence of our organism.  It is the intelligence that KNOWS without cogitation because it's expressing and responding to Life continuously.  What is remarkable about post-conquest, post-traumatic cultures is that they operate under a domination scheme where increasing importance is given to the meanings ascribed to purely socio-linguistic and cultural expressions with increasing separation from the reality that we live and breathe in, cellularly.  In other words, we increasingly inhabit a semantic reality (a reality constructed around meanings from language) increasingly divorced from Living Reality.  In Deep Freedom Now we rediscover and explore access to our Cellular Reality through the senses, opening us to what the body knows beyond our thinking.  I hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Pat!  Thank you for listening to the recording.  I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed it.  &#8220;Cellular Intelligence&#8221; is the intelligence of our organism.  It is the intelligence that KNOWS without cogitation because it&#8217;s expressing and responding to Life continuously.  What is remarkable about post-conquest, post-traumatic cultures is that they operate under a domination scheme where increasing importance is given to the meanings ascribed to purely socio-linguistic and cultural expressions with increasing separation from the reality that we live and breathe in, cellularly.  In other words, we increasingly inhabit a semantic reality (a reality constructed around meanings from language) increasingly divorced from Living Reality.  In Deep Freedom Now we rediscover and explore access to our Cellular Reality through the senses, opening us to what the body knows beyond our thinking.  I hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ReUniting With Cellular Intelligence Audio by Pat Starr</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2010/05/19/cellularintelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having participated in, and having listened to this recording many, many times -  to continue to hear anew the undulating currents of seeking for connection and understanding - all ways brings me to state of joyful laughter.  

No, there's nothing new here, no notes I haven't heard individually before, yet what I find so delightful is the unique, never to be duplicated, formation of sounds and silence that reveal the human cultural condition/state/trance/lullaby.
 
Olivier, you're a charmer, a teaser of Life.  A witty, reasoned and learned man using All of your capacities - coaxing, inviting and embracing the flow of experiential movements without necessarily giving name.  The invitation here is HUGE and huge is not necessarily/unnecessarily better!  

Continue to grapple with the concept of "cellular intelligence" and what "it" has to do with "me".  I appear to be along for the ride.  Look forward to your next invitations and imaginations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having participated in, and having listened to this recording many, many times -  to continue to hear anew the undulating currents of seeking for connection and understanding - all ways brings me to state of joyful laughter.  </p>
<p>No, there&#8217;s nothing new here, no notes I haven&#8217;t heard individually before, yet what I find so delightful is the unique, never to be duplicated, formation of sounds and silence that reveal the human cultural condition/state/trance/lullaby.</p>
<p>Olivier, you&#8217;re a charmer, a teaser of Life.  A witty, reasoned and learned man using All of your capacities - coaxing, inviting and embracing the flow of experiential movements without necessarily giving name.  The invitation here is HUGE and huge is not necessarily/unnecessarily better!  </p>
<p>Continue to grapple with the concept of &#8220;cellular intelligence&#8221; and what &#8220;it&#8221; has to do with &#8220;me&#8221;.  I appear to be along for the ride.  Look forward to your next invitations and imaginations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Human Continuum-The Brilliance of Being Human by otryba</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2009/09/13/the-human-continuum-the-brilliance-of-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>otryba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jevgenia,

Thank you for sharing in your experience in childbirth and how things are done in Holland.  Joseph Chilton Pearce has compiled the research literature in a very accessible format in his later books and study after study indicate that maternal stress during and after pregnancy have direct repercussions on child survival and health.  So much of our educational system programs us into the sort of self-alienation that you speak of as mothers no longer knowing what is going on with their child in their womb.  

At the same time, the gift that the 30% of Dutch mothers delivering at home are giving to their children will have profound impact on society there.  I believe that it is the next generation of children who have been allowed to grow into the fullness of their humanity who will show us what's possible.  

Thank you so much for your contribution to our human awakening!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jevgenia,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing in your experience in childbirth and how things are done in Holland.  Joseph Chilton Pearce has compiled the research literature in a very accessible format in his later books and study after study indicate that maternal stress during and after pregnancy have direct repercussions on child survival and health.  So much of our educational system programs us into the sort of self-alienation that you speak of as mothers no longer knowing what is going on with their child in their womb.  </p>
<p>At the same time, the gift that the 30% of Dutch mothers delivering at home are giving to their children will have profound impact on society there.  I believe that it is the next generation of children who have been allowed to grow into the fullness of their humanity who will show us what&#8217;s possible.  </p>
<p>Thank you so much for your contribution to our human awakening!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Human Continuum-The Brilliance of Being Human by Jevgenia Lodewijks</title>
		<link>http://deepfreedomnow.com/2009/09/13/the-human-continuum-the-brilliance-of-being-human/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Jevgenia Lodewijks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My home country Holland is in many ways an overorganized, hyper-capitalist country. But the way natural childbirth has been encouraged and facilitated here for the last decades, is very beautiful. It possibly also has something to do with the puritan calvinism that constitutes the roots of our contemporary culture. (Besides in the very south of Holland, even our catholics are calvinist.)
Our health care system provides all facilities to give birth at home when there are no medical complications. It even encourages it: when you choose to give birth in hospital without medical necessity, it costs you way more money.
We have a vast quantity of midwife practices, and they counsel you all through your pregnancy and assist in giving birth at home. Most midwifes accept and support it when you choose to give birth in an 'alternative' way, such as in water or on a stool.

Both my kids were born without any medical intervention, and my daughter even here at home. I praise my children and myself lucky for it: when your baby finally pops up after 9 months, all you want to do as a mother, is to hold it in your arms, close to your heart, and sooth it in all its tiny wetness and nakedness.

I've had many discussions, even arguments, about this with foreign friends who are vehemently in favour of being sedated and hospitalised when giving birth, and who proclame you an irresponsible idiot when choosing to give birth in a natural way and a safe and warm home environment.
There is an unlucky tendancy these days to blame the relatively high rate of child death at birth in Holland to this 'puritan' system. I'm more inclined to think it is partly due to the huge amount of economic stress our society generates, and the way this is liable to alienate future mothers from their primary instinct to know what is going on with there womb child in their own body. Some other factors are the mounting age of future mothers in Holland due to the necessity to party and make a career before becoming a mother, and the fact that taking the pill for years increases the risk of birth complications and having twins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My home country Holland is in many ways an overorganized, hyper-capitalist country. But the way natural childbirth has been encouraged and facilitated here for the last decades, is very beautiful. It possibly also has something to do with the puritan calvinism that constitutes the roots of our contemporary culture. (Besides in the very south of Holland, even our catholics are calvinist.)<br />
Our health care system provides all facilities to give birth at home when there are no medical complications. It even encourages it: when you choose to give birth in hospital without medical necessity, it costs you way more money.<br />
We have a vast quantity of midwife practices, and they counsel you all through your pregnancy and assist in giving birth at home. Most midwifes accept and support it when you choose to give birth in an &#8216;alternative&#8217; way, such as in water or on a stool.</p>
<p>Both my kids were born without any medical intervention, and my daughter even here at home. I praise my children and myself lucky for it: when your baby finally pops up after 9 months, all you want to do as a mother, is to hold it in your arms, close to your heart, and sooth it in all its tiny wetness and nakedness.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had many discussions, even arguments, about this with foreign friends who are vehemently in favour of being sedated and hospitalised when giving birth, and who proclame you an irresponsible idiot when choosing to give birth in a natural way and a safe and warm home environment.<br />
There is an unlucky tendancy these days to blame the relatively high rate of child death at birth in Holland to this &#8216;puritan&#8217; system. I&#8217;m more inclined to think it is partly due to the huge amount of economic stress our society generates, and the way this is liable to alienate future mothers from their primary instinct to know what is going on with there womb child in their own body. Some other factors are the mounting age of future mothers in Holland due to the necessity to party and make a career before becoming a mother, and the fact that taking the pill for years increases the risk of birth complications and having twins.</p>
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